SeanZy
Mar 11, 02:51 PM
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If you're at the brea mall I suggest going down imperial to the best buy only about 8 people in line here
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zombierunner
May 3, 08:44 AM
*sigh* Every time someone makes this mistake...
Bear in mind that the US prices do not include sales tax of any kind. In your case Australian prices include GST which I believe currently runs at 10%? If you're anything like the UK there may be additional import taxes to pay and the cost of doing business is likely to be higher (everything from shipping costs to salaries affect the price you pay at the checkout). Add in a margain that Apple will calculate to protect themselves from changes in the exchange rate and you'll probably be very close to price parity. Just as in the UK you're paying extra for the product because of the country, not because of Apple.
That's not to say Apple DON'T screw up on exchange rates and gouge the heck out of us non-Americans of course. The Mac Mini being the most recent, and painful, example. But you need to make sure you compare like for like before complaining.
UK VAT is a total Bi#ch
Bear in mind that the US prices do not include sales tax of any kind. In your case Australian prices include GST which I believe currently runs at 10%? If you're anything like the UK there may be additional import taxes to pay and the cost of doing business is likely to be higher (everything from shipping costs to salaries affect the price you pay at the checkout). Add in a margain that Apple will calculate to protect themselves from changes in the exchange rate and you'll probably be very close to price parity. Just as in the UK you're paying extra for the product because of the country, not because of Apple.
That's not to say Apple DON'T screw up on exchange rates and gouge the heck out of us non-Americans of course. The Mac Mini being the most recent, and painful, example. But you need to make sure you compare like for like before complaining.
UK VAT is a total Bi#ch
stormj
Jan 28, 02:25 PM
Not quite. Q1 exceeded everyone expectations financially. But it was the appearance of slowing iPod sales that scared everyone. The reason that Apple made its numbers is because Mac sales were extremely strong and covered the slowing iPod growth.
That and the very weak guidance for Q2 would scare a lot of investors who thought that Apple was a safe haven.
Hickman
The slowing iPod sales are the CW reason why the stock has gone down. But anytime you read what the reason for a market action is, you should be skeptical.
My view is that Apple's stock was simply overheated due to all of its publicity this year, and the Street was looking for a reason to cool it off, given the prevailing market conditions.
I don't think in another time the iPod numbers alone would have done that. Margins are higher on macs and mac sales are up -- and that didn't move the number up.
The market is bad, people are still shy of tech stocks in a bad market (rightly so), Apple has been on a long winning streak and people are starting to wonder. i also think there's a lot of "amateur" demand for Apple that was moving the stock up on all of their hype, without much of a look at the fundamentals. Those people aren't buying stocks right now.
But, as I said, be skeptical because what I'm saying probably is just another view that gets lost in the noise of the market movements.
That and the very weak guidance for Q2 would scare a lot of investors who thought that Apple was a safe haven.
Hickman
The slowing iPod sales are the CW reason why the stock has gone down. But anytime you read what the reason for a market action is, you should be skeptical.
My view is that Apple's stock was simply overheated due to all of its publicity this year, and the Street was looking for a reason to cool it off, given the prevailing market conditions.
I don't think in another time the iPod numbers alone would have done that. Margins are higher on macs and mac sales are up -- and that didn't move the number up.
The market is bad, people are still shy of tech stocks in a bad market (rightly so), Apple has been on a long winning streak and people are starting to wonder. i also think there's a lot of "amateur" demand for Apple that was moving the stock up on all of their hype, without much of a look at the fundamentals. Those people aren't buying stocks right now.
But, as I said, be skeptical because what I'm saying probably is just another view that gets lost in the noise of the market movements.
lewis82
Sep 15, 08:14 PM
picked up new ink for printer and an enclosure and two hdds
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/6171/imagetm.jpg
Deathstars...
I wouldn't buy Hitatchi, buy hey, it's as you wish...
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/6171/imagetm.jpg
Deathstars...
I wouldn't buy Hitatchi, buy hey, it's as you wish...
JoeG4
Dec 1, 11:21 PM
I wish they'd spend that time being productive writing new and cool things instead of worrying about what may possibly happen.
Security should be something that's handled at the low level, not something we have to sit here BSing about all day long and installing programs for. That's the part that bugs me about these stupid &W%@#%*( companies and MS' "anti crapware" program. THE PROBLEMS SHOULD NOT EXIST IN THE FIRST PLACE. Boy, that's what patches are for.
Looking for em is fine, but when people stop making stuff and worry more about designing security crap - **** we'll all be driving aronud armored cars.
Security should be something that's handled at the low level, not something we have to sit here BSing about all day long and installing programs for. That's the part that bugs me about these stupid &W%@#%*( companies and MS' "anti crapware" program. THE PROBLEMS SHOULD NOT EXIST IN THE FIRST PLACE. Boy, that's what patches are for.
Looking for em is fine, but when people stop making stuff and worry more about designing security crap - **** we'll all be driving aronud armored cars.
aafuss1
Jul 25, 10:33 AM
Microsoft has a Wireless Laser Mouse 6000-that works on PC's and is laser too-unlike Apple that won't support those trying to get the the wireless Mighty Mouse to work on a PC. And my fav-Logitech has the G7 that works quite fine on Macs.
bedifferent
Apr 26, 11:02 PM
What a freaking RIP-OFF.
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No, a flat fee for unlimited rentals (music and movies) would be a good deal. I don't see Apple offering that any time soon, if EVER.
Spot on, couldn't agree more. It's a marketing gimmick, and I've always hated that "dumbed down" term "cloud storage" for the average Joe-sumer. I hate that I have to use it for some of my clients for them to "get it". :rolleyes:
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No, a flat fee for unlimited rentals (music and movies) would be a good deal. I don't see Apple offering that any time soon, if EVER.
Spot on, couldn't agree more. It's a marketing gimmick, and I've always hated that "dumbed down" term "cloud storage" for the average Joe-sumer. I hate that I have to use it for some of my clients for them to "get it". :rolleyes:
Nord
May 4, 01:58 AM
Good so.
It's the return of the Mac, Steve Jobs said it so, so let's focus on Macs now and iPhone in second plan for this year at least; it's already a huge success, so...
It's the return of the Mac, Steve Jobs said it so, so let's focus on Macs now and iPhone in second plan for this year at least; it's already a huge success, so...
mdriftmeyer
Jul 21, 01:26 PM
schiller also said � i think the day before boot camp was announced � that apple wouldn't prevent users from putting windows on the intel macs, but they wouldn't facilitate it either.
apple is notorious for saying one thing and then turning around and doing the exact opposite the video ipod being a perfect example. i'm not saying it will happen, i'm just saying don't put much stock in comments from apple execs regarding future products.
What's your point?
Dual Boot allowing for multiple OS's to be selected at boot time vs. true virtualization allowing multiple OS's to be instantiated within OS X, albeit at a reduced performance aren't contradicting Phil's two statements.
We provide the boot loader.
Parallels provides the virtual solution. If you want native speed then you can run reboot into a different OS with boot camp. If you don't then go with Parallels.
apple is notorious for saying one thing and then turning around and doing the exact opposite the video ipod being a perfect example. i'm not saying it will happen, i'm just saying don't put much stock in comments from apple execs regarding future products.
What's your point?
Dual Boot allowing for multiple OS's to be selected at boot time vs. true virtualization allowing multiple OS's to be instantiated within OS X, albeit at a reduced performance aren't contradicting Phil's two statements.
We provide the boot loader.
Parallels provides the virtual solution. If you want native speed then you can run reboot into a different OS with boot camp. If you don't then go with Parallels.
Don Kosak
Apr 25, 03:56 PM
I'm excited about the update. I plan on getting a new iMac shortly after OS X Lion comes out.
I'm really hoping for an inexpensive SSD primary drive and 2TB secondary "spinning" drive.
A solid video card would be nice, but I really don't game that much, so that's not a deal killer.
I expect this may be the last of the classic 2005-style (L bracket, screen with "chin") iMacs produced. In 12-18 months I expect Apple will launch a new style of iMac with no "chin" and a drafting table style multi-touch screen.
I'm really hoping for an inexpensive SSD primary drive and 2TB secondary "spinning" drive.
A solid video card would be nice, but I really don't game that much, so that's not a deal killer.
I expect this may be the last of the classic 2005-style (L bracket, screen with "chin") iMacs produced. In 12-18 months I expect Apple will launch a new style of iMac with no "chin" and a drafting table style multi-touch screen.
Squire
Jul 10, 06:43 PM
Part of the problem is the way they market it. There was such an emphasis on templates and graphic-intensive stuff when it was first demoed in MacWorld 2005 that it's hard to think it can be a good word processor.
I wonder if they did that to downplay it as a potential threat to MS Word.
My first thought was how it looked 100x better than Microsoft Publisher.
Just last week, a coworker was showing me some of the stuff he'd done on Word. (He was creating a sort of workbook for a class he's going to be teaching.) He was proud and it did look pretty good. Then I showed him Pages. His jaw literally dropped.
Again, I think this latest rumor shows that Apple will address some of the perceptions (or misperceptions, depending on who you ask) by allowing people to dive into word processing mode and adding better search and research functions. It just might make me a convert.
You and IJ Reilly bring up some very good points. I agree that there are some misconceptions about Pages. Hopefully, nothing that a word processing mode and a renewed marketing strategy can't rectify. I'll definitely be a buyer.
You're not alone...you're the third one in this thread to mention it.
Mark me down as the 4th. :D
-Squire
I wonder if they did that to downplay it as a potential threat to MS Word.
My first thought was how it looked 100x better than Microsoft Publisher.
Just last week, a coworker was showing me some of the stuff he'd done on Word. (He was creating a sort of workbook for a class he's going to be teaching.) He was proud and it did look pretty good. Then I showed him Pages. His jaw literally dropped.
Again, I think this latest rumor shows that Apple will address some of the perceptions (or misperceptions, depending on who you ask) by allowing people to dive into word processing mode and adding better search and research functions. It just might make me a convert.
You and IJ Reilly bring up some very good points. I agree that there are some misconceptions about Pages. Hopefully, nothing that a word processing mode and a renewed marketing strategy can't rectify. I'll definitely be a buyer.
You're not alone...you're the third one in this thread to mention it.
Mark me down as the 4th. :D
-Squire
Nishi100
Nov 28, 10:56 AM
For Christmas:
A TV which is 3D capable, LED backlighted, full HD, 47 inch to 55 inch and a HDMI port, which is pretty much a standard, for my PS3; that acts as a 3D blu ray player and a great, better than the xbox, games console. I haven't decided which one, yet.
http://www.simplyelectricals.co.uk/media/catalog/product/c/7/c7000.jpg
And an Apple TV, for all the Airplay goodness, via my iPod Touch.
http://www.shoppingblog.com/pics/apple_tv_2010_2.jpg
For my Birthday (things that I wanted for christmas, but waiting for the next generation.)
iPad 2; hopefully, with a gyro, front and rear facing cameras, a "better display" - not retina, 512mb of RAM, 128gb of SSD goodness and a faster processor.
http://touchreviews.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/ipad-2-update.jpg
27 inch iMac.
http://www.mactropolis.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/overview_hero4_20091020.jpg
I have been saving up, for years. Christmas 2010 - my birthday, is the "spend it all six months," for me.
Oh, and I want to meet the REAL Santa.
https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg-HK3h6MlRAXZUBK_GKnOKrONOMe_NDUqdko3PseYXtFaWb-oWlaMo0lRKUEM-i67iP002huF9UYxHe0LrtZZR3iYRrEjxx04e_CExY5wUUixsPRQbbDyTNkHW5DOUb3ev-5PEzNBJvJw/s1600/santa-claus-pics-0101.jpg
A TV which is 3D capable, LED backlighted, full HD, 47 inch to 55 inch and a HDMI port, which is pretty much a standard, for my PS3; that acts as a 3D blu ray player and a great, better than the xbox, games console. I haven't decided which one, yet.
http://www.simplyelectricals.co.uk/media/catalog/product/c/7/c7000.jpg
And an Apple TV, for all the Airplay goodness, via my iPod Touch.
http://www.shoppingblog.com/pics/apple_tv_2010_2.jpg
For my Birthday (things that I wanted for christmas, but waiting for the next generation.)
iPad 2; hopefully, with a gyro, front and rear facing cameras, a "better display" - not retina, 512mb of RAM, 128gb of SSD goodness and a faster processor.
http://touchreviews.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/ipad-2-update.jpg
27 inch iMac.
http://www.mactropolis.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/overview_hero4_20091020.jpg
I have been saving up, for years. Christmas 2010 - my birthday, is the "spend it all six months," for me.
Oh, and I want to meet the REAL Santa.
https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg-HK3h6MlRAXZUBK_GKnOKrONOMe_NDUqdko3PseYXtFaWb-oWlaMo0lRKUEM-i67iP002huF9UYxHe0LrtZZR3iYRrEjxx04e_CExY5wUUixsPRQbbDyTNkHW5DOUb3ev-5PEzNBJvJw/s1600/santa-claus-pics-0101.jpg
aswitcher
Oct 24, 08:36 AM
Great -- that was my only holdout. Where did you see the info about 802.11n being included?
Just an educated guess.
Just an educated guess.
Snowy_River
Jul 12, 07:40 PM
I'm at a loss trying to figure out how this thread got a bit crazy...
The actual program used in Snowy's case matters little in getting it ready for the printer. You give the printer the file to print, and he/she will print it for you. Doesn't matter if it's a pdf from Word, a pdf from Pages, a doc from Word, an Indesign file, or a Quark Express file. If they can open the file, they can print it.
Again, most copy shops have elaborate folding, binding, stapling, and saddle stitching services that don't require the customer to figure out how to non-sequentually order pages. A skilled copy machine operator should be able to set up the job in less than 10 minutes.
You know, I'm with you. If we don't stop this bickering the thread is likely to get closed. I always find it irritating when that happens. So, I suggest we drop the "professional" vs. "consumer" argument. It's clear that we have different opinions, and neither of us seems to be being swayed by the other's arguments. So, perhaps we should just agree to disagree.
Now, just so I don't get accused of trying to get the last word in before saying that we should drop it, I'll invite those on the other side of the argument to have one last quip, which I won't respond to. Then we can drop it. Sound fair?
The actual program used in Snowy's case matters little in getting it ready for the printer. You give the printer the file to print, and he/she will print it for you. Doesn't matter if it's a pdf from Word, a pdf from Pages, a doc from Word, an Indesign file, or a Quark Express file. If they can open the file, they can print it.
Again, most copy shops have elaborate folding, binding, stapling, and saddle stitching services that don't require the customer to figure out how to non-sequentually order pages. A skilled copy machine operator should be able to set up the job in less than 10 minutes.
You know, I'm with you. If we don't stop this bickering the thread is likely to get closed. I always find it irritating when that happens. So, I suggest we drop the "professional" vs. "consumer" argument. It's clear that we have different opinions, and neither of us seems to be being swayed by the other's arguments. So, perhaps we should just agree to disagree.
Now, just so I don't get accused of trying to get the last word in before saying that we should drop it, I'll invite those on the other side of the argument to have one last quip, which I won't respond to. Then we can drop it. Sound fair?
DrJohnnyN
May 3, 07:42 AM
Cool!
Corey Grandy
Jan 27, 04:41 PM
$9.99 taxes in, couldn't say no to that.
http://www.blu-rayaanbieding.nl/discs/youthinrevolt.jpg
http://www.blu-rayaanbieding.nl/discs/youthinrevolt.jpg
firestarter
Apr 24, 08:02 PM
Why do you assume that I'm violent natured?
You just told me that you'd beat hell out of someone (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=12453464&postcount=56).
Non violent people don't tend to use assault to solve their problems.
You just told me that you'd beat hell out of someone (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=12453464&postcount=56).
Non violent people don't tend to use assault to solve their problems.
JoeG4
Jul 21, 03:35 PM
I don't think it will have virtualization, especially with the way they are supporting Parallels solution itself. I think a dual-boot or a fast OS switching type of solution is much more likely. Somebody around here was suggesting "sleeping" one OS and starting another. That's almost good enough. Afterall Apple does not want you to use Windows, it only wants you to believe you could run Windows if you had to, in order to ease switcher anxiety.
I've been planning a project like this (I finally got it on sourceforge, in fact) - The idea is to make the virtualization system able to hibernate any given OS (or freeze state it) in such a way that it can be restored as the host OS (and vice versa), so that you can give any of your OSes running (virtual or host), the host priorities while all the others become virtual.
OTOH, that could be laggy, and may be subject to limitations within EFI, only time will tell.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/fruitsalad/ <- shameless self promotion XD
I've been planning a project like this (I finally got it on sourceforge, in fact) - The idea is to make the virtualization system able to hibernate any given OS (or freeze state it) in such a way that it can be restored as the host OS (and vice versa), so that you can give any of your OSes running (virtual or host), the host priorities while all the others become virtual.
OTOH, that could be laggy, and may be subject to limitations within EFI, only time will tell.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/fruitsalad/ <- shameless self promotion XD
levitynyc
Apr 13, 01:55 PM
Not a chance in hell.
Don't panic
Apr 27, 11:56 AM
excellent job Intell.
No reason to delay my initial vote today, so i'll start the dance with Nies
No reason to delay my initial vote today, so i'll start the dance with Nies
dokujaryu
May 3, 09:19 AM
I was looking to verify that . . . it blows now that I know. I didn't want to have to spend the extra $200 for HT.
Hyperthreading hardly matters. It's already a quad core designed to shut off two of the cores for better performance. The minor boost to the i7 is almost always going to be attributed to the higher clockrate and the 2MB additional L3 cache.
There are some very specific scenarios and synthetic benchmarks that will use 8 threads effectively, but very few real world users will notice any benefit from Hyperthreading. Most everyone will notice a higher clock rate and more L3 cache. It's probably more fruitful for people to decide if $200 is worth 300more Mhz and 2MB additional L3, I would say those factors alone is worth around 11 - 13% performance boost, and constitutes a 10% higher cost.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Bridge#Desktop_processors
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sandy-bridge-core-i7-2600k-core-i5-2500k,2833-16.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sandy-bridge-core-i7-2600k-core-i5-2500k,2833-15.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sandy-bridge-core-i7-2600k-core-i5-2500k,2833-18.html
Hyperthreading hardly matters. It's already a quad core designed to shut off two of the cores for better performance. The minor boost to the i7 is almost always going to be attributed to the higher clockrate and the 2MB additional L3 cache.
There are some very specific scenarios and synthetic benchmarks that will use 8 threads effectively, but very few real world users will notice any benefit from Hyperthreading. Most everyone will notice a higher clock rate and more L3 cache. It's probably more fruitful for people to decide if $200 is worth 300more Mhz and 2MB additional L3, I would say those factors alone is worth around 11 - 13% performance boost, and constitutes a 10% higher cost.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Bridge#Desktop_processors
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sandy-bridge-core-i7-2600k-core-i5-2500k,2833-16.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sandy-bridge-core-i7-2600k-core-i5-2500k,2833-15.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sandy-bridge-core-i7-2600k-core-i5-2500k,2833-18.html
zenvision
Oct 24, 09:23 AM
so...
5400/7200?
is the difference a big deal for audio/graphics work?
5400/7200?
is the difference a big deal for audio/graphics work?
WhiteShadow
Aug 15, 10:16 PM
top secret can also mean surprise. they didn't show us all the things they mentioned are improved.
jameselson
May 3, 07:55 AM
It was possible to use the previous 27" as an external display for a MacBook. Can't see any mention of that after a brief scan, and it's a deal-breaker for me. Anyone spot such a feature?
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